>> right. if we fall off the cliff, as you just heard from john boehner, we're nowhere near a solution in washington, souths a real possibility the tax policy center has made some estimates. what they're saying is if you are on the bottom tile of individuals or small businesses, making about $20,000 a year, your taxes would go up about $590. let's take the top 20% of individuals or small businesses making $108,000 or more. their taxes would go up at least $13,000 a year. the higher end is going to pay a lot more, but it's going to hit the whole spectrum, suzanne, and you know, what's interesting is that limo company owner, bob, he told me, look, poppy, if i'm running my business, working around the clock, and i'm not making much, 4% to 5% and i could make the same selling my business and putting that money in a portfolio, then i'm just going to sell my business. if he does that, there goes 75 jobs. that's the big issue here. >> this affects so many 350e78. this has to be avoided. i mean, you have -- they have to come together and work this out because you're right.